Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee

Comité de l’agriculture et des questions rurales

 

MINUTES 21 / PROCÈS-VERBAL 21

 

Monday, 31 March 2008, 9:30 a.m.

le lundi 31 mars 2008, 9 h 30

 

Champlain Room, 110 Laurier Avenue West

Salle Champlain, 110, avenue Laurier Ouest

 

 

 

Present / Présent :     Councillors / conseillers R. Jellett (Chair / Président), D. Thompson
(Vice-Chair / Vice-président), G. Brooks, E. El-Chantiry, J. Harder,
G. Hunter, B. Monette

 

 

 

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

DÉCLARATIONS D’INTÉRÊT    

 

No declarations of interest were filed.

 

 

CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES
Ratification des procÈs-verbaux

 

Minutes 20 of the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee meeting of Thursday, February 28, 2008 were confirmed.


 

 

STATEMENT REQUIRED FOR ZONING APPLICATIONS POST JANUARY 1, 2007

 

For the Zoning By-law amendments listed as Items 1 and 2 on today’s agenda, only those who make oral submissions today or written submissions before the amendments are adopted may appeal the matter to the Ontario Municipal Board.  In addition, the applicant may appeal the matter to the Ontario Municipal Board if Council does not adopt an amendment within 120 days for zoning and 180 days for an Official Plan amendment of receipt of the application.

 

 

PLANNING, TRANSIT & THE ENVIRONMENT

URBANISME, TRANSPORT EN COMMUN ET

L’ENVIRONNEMENT

 

planning

URBANISME

 

1.         ZONING - 2226 GIROUX ROAD

ZONAGE - 2226, CHEMIN GIROUX

ACS2008-PTE-PLA-0078                                                              CUMBERLAND (19)

 

(This application is subject to Bill 51)

 

That the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee recommend Council approve an amendment to the former City of Cumberland Rural Zoning By-law to change the zoning of 2226 Giroux Road from Agriculture ("AGR") to Agriculture-Exception x ("AGR-Xx") as detailed in Document 2.

                                                                                                CARRIED

 

 

2.         ZONING - 8553 BANK STREET

ZONAGE - 8553, RUE BANK

ACS2008-PTE-PLA-0083                                                                      OSGOODE (20)

 

(This application is subject to Bill 51)

 

That the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee recommend Council approve an amendment to the former Township of Osgoode Zoning By-law to change the zoning of 8553 Bank Street from RU (Rural Zone) to RU[349] (Rural Exception Zone) as shown in Document 1.

                                                                                                CARRIED

 

 


PUBLIC WORKS AND SERVICES

TRAVAUX PUBLICS

 

Infrastructure Services

Services d’infrastructure

 

3.         PETITIONS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF SANITARY SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE AS LOCAL IMPROVEMENTS FOR HILLSIDE GARDENS AND CORE AREA IN THE VILLAGE OF MANOTICK

PÉTITIONS POUR L’INSTALLATION D’UNE INFRASTRUCTURE D’ÉGOUTs SÉPARATIFS EN TANT QU’AMÉLIORATIONS LOCALES POUR HILLSIDE GARDENS ET LE secteur CENTRAL DU VILLAGE
DE MANOTICK

ACS2008-PWS-INF-0001                                                    RIDEAU-GOULBOURN (21)

 

The Committee heard from the following list of delegations.  A brief summary of their presentation is listed within the minutes.  The verbal presentation of those delegations that provided written submissions has been briefly summarized as their documentation is held on file with the City Clerk’s office.

 

Delegations:

 

Sue McCulloch

Robert Henderson

Bruce Webster, President, The Rural Council of Ottawa Carleton

Jeff Turner

John Harrison

Noel Norenius, Manotick Community Association

Brian Grover

Doug Hardwick

Glen McCurdie

Brian Tansley, West Manotick Community Association

Richmond Wilson

Christopher Hawes

Brian Earl

 

Mr. Wayne Newell, Director, Infrastructure Services Branch, Public Works and Services Department (PWS) provided a PowerPoint presentation in which he reviewed the details of the above-noted report and the staff recommendations.  He went into detail on the history of the area, the chronology of events and the petition process that took place over the many months preceding this meeting.  A copy of his PowerPoint presentation is held on file with the City Clerk.

 

In response to Councillor El-Chantiry’s question on research of alternative delivery, Mr. Newell stated that all options were examined and that the studies undertaken and analysis showed that the path forward was the conventional sanitary sewer system.

 

Councillor Hunter inquired what the City’s options were once presented with a local improvement petition and certified by the Clerk as valid.  Mr. Tim Marc, Senior Legal Counsel, stated that Committee and Council have the discretion to say “no” since it does have an impact on the capital budget.  However, they may also say “yes” if they see fit to proceed.

 

Councillor Hunter stated that in his 28 years on Council he hasn’t dealt with many improvement petitions since most communities come on-line with servicing and when they did come up, they usually came with no costs to the City. However he found the funding for this one convoluted and wished more breakdown of costs. Mr. Newell agreed that local improvements have not come to Committee and Council often.  The petition area represents 20% of the overall area and when the petition began, the City gave a cost to the landowners.  Since the start of that process, City costs increased due to tactical areas such as soil conditions.  This resulted in the City picking up a higher share.

 

Councillor Brooks asked if staff have looked at the unsolicited proposal and done an analysis and “apples to apples” comparison?  Mr. Newell confirmed they had. There had been recent extensive analysis done between conventional and small-bore systems.  He stated that staff looked at two opportunities to being to a comparable level and had done substantial work in the evaluation.

 

In response to Councillor Brooks’ question on if professional engineers and planners had done the work, Mr. Newell stated that yes, an in-house staff of professional engineers and analysts and staff had sat down with the proponent and gone through details.

 

Councillor Thompson wondered if the decision on this project would be best done after the Minto appeal on the Mahogany Community.  Mr. Newell stated that in their planning process and when designing a central system, they have to account for ultimate build out of an area; a combination of the existing community and proposed development.  They have allowed for full build-out of future areas in the design to service the whole area and future residents will have to fund their full share.

 

The Committee heard from the following public delegations:

 

Ms. Sue McCulloch, a resident whose property abuts the Hillside Gardens community, spoke to prepared statement and referred to a map contained therein.  A copy of her written submission is held on file with the City Clerk.  The gist of her concern was why her property and the school were included in this petition area. 

 

Chair Jellett inquired of staff why it was extended to include this property? He stated he could see the benefit for the school, but not necessarily for this one house.  Mr. Newell stated that limits of the petition area are determined through close consultation with community and staff.  The school was included in the petition area itself and since the property in question’s sewer will abut the property, in accordance with local regulations, if you abut to a sewer, you do not have the option to opt out.  Mr. Marc stated the school had signed the petition and if the Committee excludes this property then the school does not get the service.

 

Mr. Robert Henderson, a resident of Hillside Gardens, stated that he was in favour of this project and staff’s recommendations.  He stated that the lot sizes are quite small; there is urban density with rural infrastructure that was approved 40 years ago.  He stated that the rural infrastructure can’t handle water being processed in Hillside Gardens; hence sewage contamination documented by numerous studies.  He mentioned that it is the only area in Ottawa that has it in the Official Plan that there is sewage contamination.  He said that the City has already invested upwards of $5 million in studies and now to determine whether to invest wisely or throw money out the door.  The popular opinion in the community is that this is a zoning problem created by the City 40 years ago and the City should pay.  However, 72% of residents are willing to pay.  He is asking the Committee to vote in favour to remove hazards.

 

Mr. Bruce Webster, President, Rural Council of Ottawa Carleton, spoke to a prepared statement.  A copy of his written submission is held on file with the City Clerk. His concern is not necessarily that this area needs servicing since it does but what type of service and for how much.  He believes a treatment system can be put in cheaper and a better alternative is to delay a decision on this until an OMB hearing.  The City is too far in debt; he believes new technology can save the City significant money.

 

Councillor Brooks asked Mr. Webster if he had any engineering numbers to support what he had stated regarding the collector system and treatment.   He wanted to know what numbers he had for a piped system vs. a collector system.  Mr Webster gave the following numbers: pipe $12,500 plus pipe connection; $5,000 estimated digging, connection, etc…looking at at least $4,800 (1974 numbers; likely tripled today); ends up costing $25-30 thousand, prior to decommissioning septic system.

 

In response to Councillor Brooks’ question on the numbers for alternative delivery, Mr. Webster stated that he did not have the numbers for the unsolicited alternative.  He said he has spoken with providers for alternate treatment systems such as an on-site treatment for 10,000 persons costing about  $1 million.  It is a small system that fits onto the back of a truck.

 

Councillor Brooks then asked for more information on the Village Walk system and if it’s only at 20% capacity why can’t it handle more.  Mr. Dixon Weir, Director, Water and Wastewater Services, stated that with the 36 months it’s been in operation, it has been out of compliance 7 out of 12 months in 2007 and all months in 2008.  He said that from a hydraulic point of view there is capacity, but it cannot meet effluent criteria.  This is what makes staff question its viability; not near design capacity and struggling to be in compliance with criteria as specified by the Ministry of the Environment (MOE).

 

Councillor El-Chantiry cited the example of alternate servicing strategies and technologies such as the proposal for Carp airport.  If it works for Carp airport, why can’t we have a comparison for this project?  Mr. Newell stated again that staff had done their analysis and undertaken assessments dealing with the proponents’ submission. When staff compare the two systems, which is also based on future growth, they have to design a system to allow for servicing of the entire area, realizing it is subject to future petitions.  He stated that based on detailed analysis, they were confident there would be no cost savings to look at alternatives.  They have undertaken analyses and stand by their recommendations.   He went on to say that this project and Carp are different in surface areas; Carp is much smaller with space limitations.  He stated that you cannot move unilateral solutions that work in one area quickly into another as there are different demands, settings and geography.

 

Chair Jellett requested more information on the Village Walk and what would it take to bring it back to compliance?  Mr. Weir stated that they were working with the operator and the MOE to help bring it back into compliance and no one has been able to identify what is required to bring into regular compliance.

 

Chair Jellett inquired that if could be brought into compliance, could it take the capacity of the village?  Mr. Weir cautioned that if it’s not in compliance at 20% what would happen at 100%?  This might be problematic.

 

Mr. Jeff Turner moved into Hillside Gardens 12 years ago.  He stated that this problem goes back to the 1990’s and they have been involved in meetings with staff, councillors, etc. to find solutions to this problem.  He said that you could smell septic at any time of year.  They have people in the community who can’t do laundry; septic systems won’t support the extra capacity; can’t flush toilets, etc.  He said that this is an area of clay and therefore has poor drainage.  They have waited a long time; they can’t landscape, can’t do laundry, and can’t do driveways.  He said that this is not the time to test unproven technologies on their homes given the fragile environment; not fair.  He asked the Committee to give this good consideration and that others with outside interests not be allowed to hinder something that they have to live with.  Think it’s time to put this aside and move on.  He said that digging could start as early as May 2008 but that going into further debate with further studies would be a waste of time and money; adding to the peril of living in that neighbourhood.  Consider yourselves living under those circumstances.

 

In response to Councillor El-Chantiry’s question with regards to costs and if they outlined their concerns in letters, Mr. Turner stated that a number of community members spent time on the petition, talked to a number of contractors and costs could go from $3,500 - $30,000 depending on individual needs. 

 

Councillor Brooks wanted to be clear on his understanding of decommissioning of a septic tank; is it that you pull the lid off, fill with sand and put the lid back on?  Mr. Weir stated that he was not familiar with it and could only suggest that you puncture the bottom of the tank so it drains.   Mr. Newell stated that that work would not be the City’s responsibility, and varies with each site and depends on what you want to do with the property; this has to be determined on case-by-case basis.

 

Mr. John Harrison, a resident of the core of Manotick, focused on the validity of the petition.  He strongly feels that the petition was carefully calculated to win.  He feels the BIA drove it and the local homeowner in the core did not have a real say.  He stated that the costs have skyrocketed and that the City has not planned for this.  He commented that it did not make sense to run a pipe from Manotick to the Ottawa River.  There are other issues and it is way too early to make a decision. 

 

Councillor Brooks asked what his solution was since there were real problems that needed to be addressed immediately.  Mr. Harrison said that the City should have proposals from staff for alternate proposals for sewage and then the citizens and the Councillors can see the comparisons and determine the environmental impacts. 

 

Once again Councillor Brooks asked staff if real comparisons on costs were done.  Mr. Newell once again reiterated that proper comparisons and analysis were done and staff stand by their recommendations. 

 

Mr. Noel Norenius, a resident of Hillside Gardens since 1968, felt the problem faced by residents required immediate attention and resolution, and not deferral for future study.  He felt the staff-proposed solution was the right one for the residents of Hillside Gardens, adding that this issue had been ongoing for the past five years, with all related public meetings, engineering studies, etc. concluding with the preferred solution of using regular piping to a regular treatment facility.  He felt it would be unfair to residents to now entertain the possibility of exploring alternative technologies, and added that had the adverse weather during today’s meeting not been a factor, many more residents would have been in attendance to share similar feelings with the Committee.  He disputed Mr. Webster’s views of using alternative technology serviced by the Manotick (Village Walk) plant, stating the plant in question was incapable of processing phosphate discharges, and which would be in contravention of Ministry of the Environment (MOE) directives were it to discharge phosphates into the Rideau River.  In conclusion, Mr. Norenius emphasized that the community had fulfilled its part of the deal by having petitioned and voted for a sewer connection.  He asked that the City now do its part by building it.

 

Mr. Brian Grover, a resident of the Manotick Core Area and supporter of the sewer petition, referred to a prepared statement which had previously been distributed to the Committee by e-mail, a copy of which is held on file with the City Clerk.  The following summarizes the main points raised at the meeting:

 

·        The speaker is a strong proponent of improved sanitation in Manotick’s priority areas, noting continuing local growth will likely lead to further expansion of sewered areas;

·        Alternative systems are available; i.e., Field (near North Bay), Wardsville (near London), designed by progressive Ottawa-based engineering consultants offering more choice, i.e., small-bore systems;

·        Local treatment plants should serve local populations; pumping Manotick waste 50+ km to ROPEC is not a good idea; instead, a separate local system would be preferable, i.e., Village Walk plant in Manotick or elsewhere in the village;

·        City engineering staff have not demonstrated to residents that realistic, lower cost options for local sewage collection and treatment have been properly considered and evaluated;

 

In conclusion, Mr. Grover advised the Committee to take the time needed to make the right choice, as he felt other rural communities would be forced to connect to the Ottawa sewer system if Manotick were made to do so.  He also suggested that the City solicit help from the local community, and that the City owed its residents the right to examine the data, as he felt they had been kept in the dark because cost comparisons of alternative systems had not been made public.

 

Councillor El-Chantiry felt many believed that if a community decided on a particular course of action that only it would benefit from; it should bear the full costs incurred.  He said it was unfair to pass on local improvement costs to other Ottawa taxpayers.

 

Clarifying for Councillor Brooks on the issue of the unsolicited proposal for a small-bore system, Mr. Newell affirmed that staff had indeed engaged in a desktop comparison with the proponent to answer some of the questions that had been raised.  He emphasized the recent evaluation was more in the nature of a re-evaluation to verify decisions previously rendered.  Mr. Newell explained the analyses undertaken as part of previous studies and environmental assessments had earlier concluded that, based on those earlier assessments of alternatives, the best way to move forward was with central servicing and local conventional sewers for these areas.  He stated the recent analysis had been undertaken through discussions with the proponent to check to make sure staff’s previous decisions were still appropriate, and confirmed that he believed the appropriate recommendations had been encapsulated in the present report.

 

Mr. Doug Hardwick, a resident of the Manotick core for 37 years, said he had been involved with the issue of sewage and related technology for 20 years.  He expressed frustration with a process he believed was problematic and full of misunderstandings, which he largely attributed to City staff.  He felt that despite staff assertions that alternate systems were not feasible, reasons and empirical data to back up this view had never been made available to the public.  He stated that viable alternative systems were currently working in Europe, Ontario and parts of the United States.  Noting the City was involved with a Sepratech membrane system at the Village Walk plant, he stated the technology involved was old, and was not the same as currently available membrane technology systems.  Mr. Hardwick also felt the process was not transparent, noting that when speaking to an on-site engineer at the Village Walk plant, he had been directed to communicate with engineers at ROPEC (the R.O. Pickard Environmental Centre) for further information. 

 

While the speaker agreed with the residents of Hillside Gardens that a critical situation existed, he felt Manotick residents had been backed into agreeing to the proffered solution.  He requested to be shown actual figures, questioning the notion that two different systems could come out with equal costs.  As to the question of the proponent’s anonymity, Mr. Hardwick believed that it would be hard for the proponent to generate business outside of the Ottawa area should the proposal be turned down by Committee.  In conclusion, the speaker encouraged Committee not to delay the process further, but to critically examine a system, which he felt, could perform equally well, and for less money.  

 

Councillor Brooks questioned whether the proponent of the unsolicited proposal had made any request to come before the City to openly make a presentation in support of it.  Mr. D. Moodie, Rural Affairs Officer, explained that although the company’s representatives had spoken to ARAC and various Committees in the past, there had been no recent request to do so.  In light of the company’s reluctance to appear before Committee to defend itself, and also because of its request for anonymity, the Councillor questioned the proposal’s authenticity.

 

Councillor Brooks asked if staff had openly conferred with the proponent in comparing the two systems in terms of cost and construction.  Mr. Newell explained staff had looked at the two alternatives and tried to bring them to a level playing field to allow for an appropriate assessment, but emphasized that there were differences between the two systems.  He detailed that the proponent’s small-bore system, unlike the staff-proposed system (which would connect to residents’ houses at their front yards), would run piping into residents’ back yards and join with a pipe from the residence that would normally connect to a septic bed.  Mr. Newell said such systems would not permit below-grade facilities in basements, whereas the staff-proposed system would, because it would provide a conventional lateral connection at a grade below the elevation of the basement footings.  He stated that allowances had been in both assumptions when comparing common levels of service and costs, further explaining that some of the incremental costs involved went beyond the cost of the services alone, i.e., trunk systems and external works to remove wastewater, including allowances in the designs of the systems should future petitioners come forth to apply for a conventional vs. a small-bore system.

 

Mr. Glen McCurdie, a long-time resident of Rideau Township currently living in the Manotick core for the last seven years, said he fully supported a system as proposed with a view towards improving Manotick’s business community and sustaining its residents.  However, he felt that not all residents had been fairly encompassed by the petition and were not all on an equal footing.  Mr. McCurdie explained that some core residents lived within a short distance of the village main street, whose connection costs would be significantly different than his own, as his property was situated 200 feet downhill from the street.  He noted he had not originally seen the petition, suggesting his property may have been bypassed owing to the distance involved, and further suggested that consultation and communication from the City had been poor.   Mr. McCurdie questioned how “core area” had been defined, as he did not believe his property should be included.  Acknowledging the City had extended him a rebate in terms of connecting to his property, he offered this would still result in a net sum of $13,800 for him to connect to the pipe at the property line.  He noted it would likely cost him an additional $35,000 to run piping another 200 feet to connect to his house, and to cover the cost of closing off his existing septic system and installing a pump to remove wastewater.  He expressed a lack of confidence in the ability of such a system to pump wastewater 200 feet uphill without consequence, stating that a sewer backup would affect him more directly than others.  While Mr. McCurdie said he backed the project, he asked that there be consideration given for individuals in situations like his.

 

Chair Jellett asked the speaker if he was asking to be exempted from connecting to the system.  Mr. McCurdie explained that he would either prefer to be exempted from it or for the costs to be shared in a better way, as he believed it unfair to have to pay in excess of $50,000 for hook-up costs. 

 

At Chair Jellett’s request to explain, from an engineering perspective, whether the pumping of wastewater 200 feet uphill was feasible, Mr. Newell said staff believed that it was.  Further, he commented that because Mr. McCurdie’s particular situation did not allow for servicing on a conventional basis because of gravity, his costs would be reduced by up to 75%, owing to the additional efforts that would be required on his part to make use of the proposed system.

 

Referring to Document 1 of the staff report, Councillor Hunter asked about two areas on the map along the river excluded from core area servicing.  He offered that the areas seemed to have engineering difficulties similar to those of Mr. McCurdie’s property, which had been included in the catchment’s area.  Mr. Newell explained that if sites could not allow for construction for whatever reason, such areas would be excluded.  He said it was necessary to work with the community to properly define boundary limitations in order to determine a site’s feasibility for connection.  Mr. Newell explained that Mr. McCurdie’s property was determined to be feasible for connection, but acknowledged it would be more onerous and would not incorporate the same level of service. 

 

Mr. Brian Tansley, President, West Manotick Community Association, said he supported the concerns of the residents of Hillside Gardens and Manotick’s commercial core.  However, he disagreed with the position taken by City engineers that the only viable solution was for central servicing, explaining that four alternatives had originally been voted upon, with the chosen option being the completion of a rural wastewater management study analysis of alternatives and a study for costing including the servicing of 2000 homes.  Mr. Tansley explained that a subsequent report to the City’s Planning and Environment Committee outlined that the scope of the survey of alternative wastewater systems focused on the management and sustainability of privately-serviced areas of the City and did not specifically address the use of such systems to service large populations.  Further, the evidence of the case studies demonstrated that in Ontario, the application of alternative technologies was limited and had only been used to service small populations.  For this reason, staff believed the Committee’s direction had been fulfilled.  Mr. Tansley disagreed with this position, noting no reference had made to membrane bioreactor systems, used in Ontario since 2000, and the technology recommended in the unsolicited proposal.  He believed such a system could be employed in a timely fashion, at a lower cost than the central servicing option.  He too asked that the cost comparisons be made public.  He felt that to implement a $70 million project to serve 400 residents served to disenfranchise 80% of the population when only 20% of the area’s population had been given a vote.  He asked Committee to give serious consideration to the long-term implications of implementing such a decision. 

 

Responding to Councillor Thompson’s question regarding the fairness of having 20% of the local population affecting, potentially, 80% of local residents as a result of the local improvement petition, Mr. Marc explained that the Official Plan (OP) speaks to what should be considered priority areas in terms of servicing.  Consistent with this, the Public Works and Services department (PWS) examined the Village of Manotick and established lines based on what were determined to be the logical areas to service.  Further, consistent with both the direction of the OP and based on determinations from an engineering perspective, the petitions went ahead in the two subject areas. 

 

Councillor Brooks added that Hillside Gardens and the Manotick core had been identified in both the Manotick Secondary Plan and in the OP.  He pointed out the petition to have the village serviced spoke to doing so over time, which could mean 25 to 40 years hence, emphasizing that the issue before Committee at present was only that of a local improvement.  The Councillor noted that staff had been asked to design a system for the entire village, as defined in the Secondary Plan and OP, in realizing that the whole area would likely be serviced over time, and when such servicing was deemed to be required, residents could petition.  Councillor Brooks explained a two-thirds majority of affected residents would be required, failing which; the subject area would not receive servicing.  He noted this requirement would apply to all areas.  Mr. Marc confirmed this was correct.

 

At Councillor Brooks’ request, Mr. Tansley expanded on his earlier reference to alternative technologies, explaining that membrane bioreactor system technology had been commercially viable since 2000 in Ontario and earlier in other parts of the world.  He was uncertain as to how many Ontario communities were currently utilizing such technology, but spoke of one in Creemore, Ontario, in Clearview Township, operating continuously under contract with the Collingwood system since 2000.

 

Noting this type of technology had been available since 2000, Councillor Brooks wondered why many communities still preferred to implement “old” technology.  Mr. Tansley suggested it had not initially been adopted more widely due to start-up hesitation, but believed it was being adopted more widely at present, noting there were now many examples in current use all over North America.  He believed such technology deserved a serious look as befitted Manotick for cost reasons and for timeliness.  He further noted the system approved for operation in Creemore, Ontario issued a relatively clean effluent, which did not increase the level of pollution of the river into which it discharged.

 

In reply to Councillor Brooks as to whether staff had looked at the Creemore model, Mr. Newell explained that he could not specify what technologies had been examined, but noted that treatment options had been considered as part of the environmental assessment (EA) process, at the conclusion of which, the preferred option had been recommended.  He further clarified that the issue at hand was not one of viability, as there were other viable options available, including small-bore systems and treatment facilities.  Mr. Newell further explained that through the processes, studies and EA’s undertaken to date, staff had recommended a preferred solution to service both the area at large, and that of Hillside Gardens and Manotick Core subject to the local improvement process in particular.  He said staff could continue to look at different options and processes, which could result in alternate solutions, but that the focus had been on moving forward with the implementation of a preferred option.

 

Responding to a question from Chair Jellett as to whether the preferred option would have been the same had there been no plans for future expansion outside of the subject areas, Mr. Newell explained staff had designed the system on the basis of accommodating the entire area.  He suggested that to speculate on what decisions might have been made under different scenarios might prove difficult.

 

Mr. Rich  Wilson spoke in favour of the petition and stated that he has been involved with this issue for long time.  For quite some time they were convinced that a piped system was the way to go, particularly for Hillside Gardens and the core.  He stated that any change from this piped solution would have to be approved by the MOE and this would cause a delay in the solution.  There is a problem in this community that needs to be resolved now.  There are current constructions being allowed to proceed with the understanding that sewers are coming on-line soon.  He also stated that as far as the vitality of the core is concerned, not much could be done until they have the pipe.  To introduce other elements at the 11th hour is unwarranted especially since the petition process was delayed for two months to allow for consideration of alternate systems. There is nothing on the horizon to make anyone comfortable with the idea of reinventing the wheel; have to deal with a real and immediate problem. 

 

Mr. Christopher Hawes, a resident of Hillside Gardens and the lead petitioner stated that this was an issue of health and safety and that they have been fighting for ten years.  He said that there is sewage in the surface water of Hillside Gardens, which is a real danger to children, animals and public health.  They have been told too often that there would be a solution. They, as residents, recognized there was a significant problem.  He stated that they went down the path of alternate technologies; he was one of the first proponents of small bore.  He strongly emphasized that residents in this area have paid taxes for this improvement for years to the RMOC and now to the City.  Years ago they hooked up to City water because of faecal coliform counts.  They leach unacceptable levels of effluent into the river.  17% of residents live on an annual income of less than $35,000 and 9% live below the poverty line. Looking at other technologies will delay this project for 5 years or more.  In 5 years, if someone gets sick from contamination, it will be the City’s fault. He and many others have worked countless hours with volunteers to provide information.  They have done everything they could do to legally live up to what the City has told them they have to do. 

 

Mr. Brian Earl has been a Hillside Gardens resident since 1972 and stated that he does not have the full use of his yard; taken up with a septic tank and bed.  He stated that he has done research on small-bore systems and said it would still require him to keep a septic tank.  If they connected to small bore, they would not have full use of their lots and would end up paying more than the average citizen of Ottawa.

 

Councillor Brooks asked staff to further explain the 2 systems investigated.  Mr. A. Gonthier, Manager, Infrastructure Management stated that staff took both systems and compared them based on the same level of service and overall servicing strategy, based on direction from Council and the Official Plan, which was to service the overall area.  The difference in costs is almost negligible and has been identified in the 2008 capital budget.  Staff have gone through detailed analyses and they do not have the same degree of confidence in the proponent’s unsolicited proposal, but have taken information at face value.  The difference between the two systems was not felt to provide enough justification to entertain as an option.

 

Councillor Brooks clarified that he was looking for cost comparisons.  Mr. Newell stated that to the best of their ability they have done the analysis as stated and the conventional system is still the one recommended.

 

In response to Councillor Harder’s question on the when the unsolicited proposal was brought forward, Mr. Derrick Moodie, Rural Affairs Officer, stated that it was received within the last 2 months.  The small bore technology has been tried in other communities and works but the comparison is based on very small populations of about 400 people, and is therefore not really an apples to apples comparison.

 

Councillor Monette inquired as to why this report did not first go to the Rural Issues Advisory Committee (RIAC).  Mr. Newell stated that this was a local petition and initiative and therefore, staff felt it was more appropriate to come to ARAC directly.

 

In response to Councillor Monette’s question on whether the petitioners knew the costs involved, Mr. Newell stated that each resident was informed what the costs would be for their individual properties. 

 

In response to Councillors’ questions on opting in or out, Mr. Newell stated that this was possible only if it does not affect an abutting property that wants the service.  Chair Jellett stated that in Mr. McCurdie’s case he could opt out because it doesn’t affect anyone else (at end of the pipe) but in Ms. McCulloch’s case, this could not be done without affecting the school.

 

Councillor El-Chantiry stated that staff have done a great job and he did not want to discredit the job they had done, but wondered if there are other options that should have been investigated further and should be looked at now especially with the Minto appeal coming.   Mr. Newell responded stating that staff had to examine a system to service a large area and part of it is an existing community, and part of it is to service a future community; but that was not drove the process.  For any future development such as Minto, they will be responsible for paying their share of costs.  He stated that there have been a number of studies, directions, assessments, etc… and what staff had done most recently was re-evaluate a chosen option to assess whether it was a viable option for Hillside Gardens and the core. 

 

Councillor Brooks acknowledged that sometimes it takes time to make the right decision, however, this has been looked at it in the 90’s (twice), after amalgamation (twice); how many times do we have to look at it?  He stated the research has been done and the comparisons have been made.  Is there any advantage of re-examining it again?  Mr. Newell said he believed not.

 

Councillor Brooks asked if the costs accurately reflected the costs to the City such as opening and closing roads to replace asbestos pipe?  Mr. Newell stated that the $6.1 million was exclusively for infrastructure not including local improvement.

 

With regard to surcharge monies, Mr. Newell stated on a personal view that the City was not spending the right amount of dollars on fixing its infrastructure; if not spending in Manotick, would it be spent elsewhere? Have assumed the funds would not be spent elsewhere, but priorities dictate that the City would be fixing water mains elsewhere.

 

Chair Jellett stated that the Committee had recommendations from staff and asked if there were any amending motions.

 

Councillor Brooks urged the Committee to accept the recommendation as outlined in the ARAC report to proceed with sanitary sewers.

 

Councillor El-Chantiry asked if there was any advantage to sending the report to RIAC and the Chair stated that the Committee could do so if they wished but that a small portion of overall cost is attributable to the rural community.  Councillor El-Chantiry stated that next time staff should consult with RIAC and Mr. Newell stated that staff would take this as direction.  

 

Councillor Thompson commented that there seemed to be a divisive feeling in the community with regard to this; have met and listened to proponents of small bore system and have heard from those most directly affected.  He said he would not defer or refer this any longer, as he had been impacted by what he had heard.  He said there was enough suffering and that it was time to move ahead. 

 

Councillor Brooks stated that it was unfortunate that the alternate proposal had come in so late at the 11th hour and 59th minute and to put it on hold for another 2-5 years would put the community at risk.  He encouraged staff to look at alternate technologies however, for future developments such as the one in Richmond Village.  He encouraged his colleagues to move forward on this.  He believed the recommendation in the staff report had been well thought-out and well researched. 

 

Moved by Councillor G. Brooks

 

Whereas, senior levels of government do not recognize rural Ottawa as rural with respect to infrastructure funding programs;

 

And whereas, this has disadvantaged both the City and rural residents, such as residents and businesses in Manotick's Hillside Gardens and Core areas, that are engaged in local improvement petitions to improve water and wastewater services in their community;

 

And whereas other communities have indicated an interest in pursuing a local improvement to access water and wastewater services should there be funding assistance available;

 

And whereas a new group of infrastructure programs, known as 'Building Canada' are expected to be available in Ontario soon;

 

Therefore be it resolved that City staff be directed to submit a request for funding under the Building Canada Fund to both the Provincial and Federal governments immediately so that an application by the City could be considered as soon as the funding becomes available;

 

Be it further resolved, that this application should focus on water and wastewater projects Citywide in areas that are not currently served with water or sewer infrastructure;

 

And be it further resolved, that the funding, if provided, should be used to offset both the resident's portion required through the local improvement charge and the City's portion of costs for future servicing areas, at the same percentage.

 

                                                                                                CARRIED

 

Councillor Harder commented that this was a good motion and the same can be said with rural libraries.  She and the Chief Librarian had met with the Minister of Culture; the City is at a disadvantage due to issues forced upon it by amalgamation; 90% of the City’s land mass is rural, and less than 10% of the population is rural.

 

That the Agriculture and Rural Affairs Committee recommend Council approve:

 

1.         The construction of sanitary sewer infrastructure to and within Hillside Gardens on Long Island in the Village of Manotick, subject to approval of a By-Law to undertake the work as a Local Improvement in accordance with the Municipal Act;

 

2.         A By-Law to undertake the construction of sanitary sewer infrastructure to the Core Area on the mainland of the Village of Manotick, subject to approval of a By-Law to undertake the work as a Local Improvement in accordance with the Municipal Act;

 

3.         That staff proceed, to acquire the land required for the main pumping station and related pipe works, including expropriation if required;

 

4.         That City staff be directed to submit a request for funding under the Building Canada Fund to both the Provincial and Federal governments immediately so that an application by the City could be considered as soon as the funding becomes available and that this application should focus on water and wastewater projects Citywide in areas that are not currently served with water or sewer infrastructure; and that the funding, if provided, should be used to offset both the resident's portion required through the local improvement charge and the City's portion of costs for future servicing areas, at the same percentage.

 

                                                                                                CARRIED as amended

 

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A.        Municipal Drain Status Update

Mise à jour de l’état de l’égout municipal

ACS2008-pws-wws-0013-ipd                      City Wide / À l'échelle de la ville

 

Mr. Terry Hale, representing the Rural Issues Advisory Committee, spoke to the Committee with regard to the information before them and a motion that was passed by the Rural Council and endorsed by RIAC.  In particular he and RIAC were concerned with the Flowing Creek issue.  He stated that it was 3 years ago to the date that the City started the initiative dealing with Municipal Drains and in June 2006, the City approved a task force report at ARAC, subsequently adopted by Council. 

 

With the Flowing Creek issue, he is concerned that it is not being done in an expeditious fashion.  It is strongly felt that this work should be undertaken in 2008 and not in 2009 as set out in the IPD.  A copy of the RIAC minutes and motion are held on file with the City Clerk’s office.

 

Chair Jellett inquired from staff on why such a long delay.  Mr. Weir stated that it was important to appreciate that there are certain windows in which to operate.  Staff are trying to mesh together a number of regulatory requirements, which include approvals, opportunities for appeal, etc.  This requires time to proceed; mandatory approval process allows residents to understand what construction requirements are, and allows for appeals of the assessment process.  Prior to having those costs allocated to residents, it is important to have the approval and appeal process, and this is mandated within the legislation; no opportunity for City to alter that.  Staff understand what the Rural Council and RIAC are saying, but there are regulatory requirements that force the City to go through this approval process and staff can’t compress that.

 

Chair Jellett asked if the construction could take place in the spring.  Mr. Weir stated that they were limited to dry summer months out of concern for fish habitats, etc.  To take it outside of that window leads to environmental mitigation costs, etc.

 

 

In response to Chair Jellett’s question on whether the Province might relax some of its legislation, Mr. Weir stated that staff are involved in discussions with regard to provincial initiatives to come up with a simpler process and have developed a collegial, cooperative approach, and staff are working to expedite this issue to help the Province understand how important this matter is.

 

Councillor Qadri inquired on a specific project listed as number 8 on the IPD in Hazeldean.  He stated that Council rejected this project in April 2004 and wondered why it has come before the Committee again. Mr. Weir stated that within the Drainage Act, there is a provision for someone to raise this again and a petition is being circulated to do so.  Staff are in contact with the proponent, advising them of the costs involved on their part should this happen, so it may not proceed.

 

Mr. Wesley spoke to the item on Flowing Creek as well and how frustrating it has been to get any action done on this item considering it has been ongoing for 3 years now.  The residents need some action soon as much of their land now is marsh or flooded and nothing can be done with it.  Now quarry operations have added to the problem.  They are getting 10 times the amount of water they should have.  They want to bring it back to the way it was; keep the creek flowing and get rid of the water.

 

Chair Jellett asked if there was anything the Committee could do to speed up the matter. Mr. Weir stated that staff recognize that this is a problem and are in a situation that to start to effect the changes, but have to make sure that the rest of that creek has an adequate outlet, and have to address Upper Flowing Creek in its entirety.  Staff  have gone back and forth to find an easier, quicker solution; but there isn’t any.

 

Councillor Brooks stated that he had met with M.P.P. Norm Sterling on this water and drainage issue and felt that common sense would have to prevail.  Sooner or later, residents will have a class action suit situation.  He stated that they have sat listening to the same situation for three years now and it’s not getting anywhere.  Who takes responsibility?  Who does what when?  What person do we have to go to get things done?  Mr. Weir responded that there are three different levels of government in this issue, each with different competing levels of priority.  He stated that a letter was received from Agriculture Minister Leona Dombrowsky pointing to some of the same initiatives he has mentioned today.  The City is looking forward to liaising with the Province but there is still concern with regard to the Federal Government.  A copy of the Minister’s letter is held on file with the Clerk’s office.

 

Councillor Brooks stated that all of the decision makers aren’t at the same table and those who don’t attend are always blamed.  He would like a symposium where all the key decision makers are at the same table at the same time.  Mr. Weir said there is hesitation from many provincial bodies to have this kind of a meeting while trying to work something out at the provincial level. 

 

Chair Jellett made the observation that there is no solution since it seems to be out of the City’s control.

 

Councillor Hunter stated that since Flowing Creek is only a creek at this time and not a municipal drain could this issue not be brought before the courts by the landowners?  Mr. Weir stated that the Councillor’s understanding is probably correct, but rarely is the solution this easy. 

 

Councillor El-Chantiry suggested that staff report back to ARAC on this issue in three months’ time since this has been going on too long and the Committee doesn’t want to hear the same answers again in a year’s time.

 

Chair Jellett directed staff to come back with a report in 2 to 3 months time on this issue.

 

                                                                                                            RECEIVED

 

 

 

«OPEN MIKE» SESSION

TRIBUNE LIBRE                

 

Mr. Jason Dever - President, Greater Ashton Community Association brought forth a problem regarding Ashton Station Road and its maintenance, or lack thereof.  The road is half maintained by Ottawa, half by Beckwith Township and there appears to be a gap in terms of maintenance.  He stated that the Ottawa half is well maintained but not so well by Beckwith.   There appears to be confusion in terms of maintenance.  There are 35 houses on the City of Ottawa side and only 5 on the Beckwith side.  Due to the poor maintenance of this road the school board won’t allow their buses to travel along the road at certain times.  He felt that the solution would be for City to take over full responsibility for the length of the road.  He is requesting that this be examined as this affects City of Ottawa residents. 

 

Chair Jellett stated that this is the case with many of the City’s boundary roads and he has similar situations in his ward.  The problem is that this has to be handled on a City-wide basis, not just on a one-road situation.

 

Councillor Brooks stated that the Ashton Station Road problem is not unique and he has discussed this road with the City Manager a number of times, and has arranged for him to drive this road.  He cited the example of how ridiculous this is; a City plough, ploughing down the road, stops 500 feet from its end.  The road is more mud than gravel. 

 

Moved by Councillor G. Brooks

 

WHEREAS, the conditions of our boundary roads have been identified from residents of the east, west and south on numerous occasions through public delegations at ARAC and RIAC as well as through written correspondence, and;

 

WHEREAS, the ongoing operations and maintenance of these boundary roads is shared with our neighbouring municipalities;

 

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT staff in Public Works and Services be directed to review the condition of our boundary roads and ditches, and report back to ARAC;

 

THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT staff work with the Public Works Departments of our neighbouring municipalities to develop a strategy to ensure that these roads and ditches are maintained within the parameters of City standards.

 

                                                                                                            CARRIED

 

Mr. Webster, representing the Rural Issues Advisory Committee, spoke to 2 motions passed by RIAC at its meeting of November 27, 2007 dealing with a 3% cap on housing in rural villages and rural servicing. A copy of the RIAC minutes and motions are held on file with the City Clerk’s office.

 

On the first point of the cap, he stated that this had been a traditional percentage for build-out and RIAC felt it was an appropriate cap. It was felt it could constrain developers and allow for new residents to integrate into rural areas.  RIAC would like ARAC to consider this as an approach to managed growth.  On the second point he stated that it was incumbent on ARAC to direct City staff to consider on-site servicing as a first choice for servicing in rural areas. 

 

Chair Jellett stated that the first motion put forth by RIAC was fairly straightforward but that he difficulty with the second motion.

 

Councillor Brooks stated that in terms of capping, he would love to be able to do it but doesn’t feel the City could, since it would be challenged often by the OMB.  This was tried by former Rideau Township and the lawyer at the time could not defend the position.  He stated that he supported limiting growth, did not know how this could be best done, and was not sure a specific number could be put in there.

 

Chair Jellett suggested that it be referred to the Official Plan review for staff to determine what can or cannot be done.

 

Councillor El-Chantiry agreed as he had difficulties with some of the motion’s wording and recommendations. 

 

The Committee’s direction to staff is to refer these motions for review to the Official Plan review.

 

 

 

INQUIRIES

DEMANDES DES RENSEIGNMENTS

 

 

 

OTHER BUSINESS

AUTRES QUESTIONS

 

 

 

ADJOURNMENT

LEVÉE DE LA SÉANCE

 

The meeting adjourned at 1:45 p.m.

 

 

Original signed by                                                     Original signed by

M. Desjardins                                                             Councillor R. Jellett

                                                                                                                                               

Committee Coordinator                                             Chair