1. REQUEST FOR
TEMPORARY OUTDOOR PATIO ENCROACHMENT - 180 MACLAREN STREET demande d’empiètement
temporaire pour une terrasse extérieure – 180, rue MacLaren |
Committee Recommendation as amended
That Council approve waiver of the
residential encroachment provisions of By-law-446 to allow for an outdoor patio
at 180 MacLaren Street as outlined in this report, as amended to ensure that
the patio close at 11:00 p.m. and that there be no outdoor sound amplification.
Recommandation modifiÉ DU
Comité
Que le Conseil approuve une dérogation aux dispositions
du Règlement 446 sur les empiètements relatifs aux propriétés dont le zonage
est résidentielle, en vue de permettre l’aménagement d’une terrasse extérieure
au 180, rue MacLaren, comme le décrit le présent rapport, et tel que modifié
pour s’assurer que la terrasse ferme à 23 h et qu’il n’y ait pas
d’amplificateur de son à l’extérieur.
Documentation
1. Deputy City Manager’s Report, Infrastructure
Services and Community Sustainability dated 5 November 2010 (ACS2010-ICS-PGM-0213).
2. Extract of Draft Minutes, 17 November
2010.
Report to/Rapport au :
Transportation Committee
Comité des transports
and Council / et au
Conseil
05 November 2010 / le 05 novembre 2010
Submitted by/Soumis par : Nancy Schepers, Deputy City Manager/Directrice
municipale adjointe, Infrastructure Services and Community
Sustainability/Services d'infrastructure et Viabilité des collectivités
Contact Person/Personne ressource : Linda Uhryniuk, Senior By-law Administrator
Planning and Growth Management/Urbanisme et Gestion de la croissance
(613) 580-2424 x 16049, Linda.Uhryniuk@ottawa.ca
Ref N°: ACS2010-ICS-PGM-0213 |
SUBJECT:
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REQUEST
FOR TEMPORARY OUTDOOR PATIO ENCROACHMENT - 180 MACLAREN STREET |
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OBJET :
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demande d’empiètement temporaire pour une
terrasse extérieure – 180, rue MacLaren |
That the Transportation Committee recommend Council approve waiver of
the residential encroachment provisions of By-law-446 to allow for an outdoor
patio at 180 MacLaren Street as outlined in this report.
RECOMMANDATION DU
RAPPORT
Que le Comité des transports recommande au Conseil d’approuver une
dérogation aux dispositions du Règlement 446 concernant les empiètements
relatifs à des propriétés dont le zonage est résidentiel afin de permettre une
terrasse extérieure au 180, rue MacLaren, tel que décrit dans le présent
rapport.
At the Transportation Committee meeting of 1 September 2010 staff was directed to review an application for temporary encroachment at 180 MacLaren Street, and to notify the Ward Councillor, the owner and the surrounding community. These findings and the results of the public circulation are included in this report.
In November 2006, the owner of 180 MacLaren Street made an application for an outdoor patio on the MacLaren Street southside inner boulevard just east of Elgin Street. In accordance with Encroachment By-law 2003-446, which requires that outdoor patio encroachments conform to the zoning requirement for a separation of 30 metres from property zoned as residential, staff denied the application.
Subsequently, the applicant asked the Ward Councillor to support a waiver of this provision of the Encroachment By-law. Residents and property owners within 90 metres of the location were notified of the application and, as a result of the number of objections received, the Councillor did not present the application to Transportation Committee for a waiver of the by-law.
The applicant recently has approached Transportation Committee directly, requesting review of the application, hence the motion of 1 September 2010.
The location of the proposed outdoor patio encroachment is the MacLaren Street inner boulevard, between the sidewalk and the building, approximately six metres from the southeast corner of MacLaren Street and Elgin Street. Currently, the inner boulevard is an unused area with an interlocked brick surface (Document 1). The proposed size of the patio is 3.2 metres in width and 22.4 metres in length (Document 2).
The outdoor patio is proposed to operate seasonally from April to September, with all encroachments removed completely from the road allowance in the winter season, from 15 November to 1 April. Standard conditions of these types of permits require that no music may be permitted on the patio. In addition, the patio at this location would be required to close each night by 11PM. This is a standard condition for outdoor patios operating within 30 metres of a property zoned residential.
As part of the review, no objections were received in response to an internal circulation and a utilities circulation.
In summary, the application meets City standards and all requirements of the Encroachment By‑law save the separation requirement for which waiver would be required as the proposed patio would be within 30 metres of property zoned residential.
RURAL IMPLICATIONS
N/A
The Ward Councillor had circulated a notice to the residents of 150 MacLaren Street prior to the committee meeting in September. As directed by Committee in September, over 900 notices were mailed to all residents and residential property owners within 90 metres of the location.
The responses are summarized in Document 3. Eighty-nine responses were received, with 71 opposed and 18 in support of the application. Results of the circulation have been provided to the Ward Councillor and the applicant.
A similar circulation in 2007 resulted in 20 objections and four favourable responses.
An additional 381
responses in support of the application were compiled and submitted by the
applicant. Approximately half of the
responses are from residents of the area.
COMMENTS BY THE WARD
COUNCILLOR
Councillor Holmes is
opposed to this item being considered by the Committee, as it is a
circumvention of the usual process.
Consideration of the proposal in this manner opens the door to similar
applications without the appropriate discussion and sensitivity to this as a
local ward issue.
Councillor Holmes recognizes
that the lack of an appeal process is frustrating for the applicant and considers
it appropriate to delay any decision on this matter pending staff
recommendations regarding a comprehensive review of the Encroachment By-law.
There are no legal/risk management impediments to receiving this report.
CITY STRATEGIC PLAN
N/A
N/A
There are no direct financial implications associated with this report.
Document 1 Photo - Inner Boulevard of southeast corner of MacLaren Street and Elgin Street
Document 2 Outdoor Patio Design - 180 MacLaren Street
Document 3 Summary of Responses - Community Circulation October 2010 and a Councillor Circulation Prior to Motion for 180 MacLaren Street
There will be no further action by staff at this time unless directed by Committee or Council. Should the application be approved, staff will provide an approval letter and issue annual permits for the location.
PHOTO -
INNER BOULEVARD, SOUTHEAST CORNER OF
MACLAREN
AND ELGIN STREETS DOCUMENT 1
OUTDOOR PATIO DESIGN – 180 MACLAREN DOCUMENT 2
SUMMARY OF RESPONSES - COMMUNITY CIRCULATION
OCTOBER 2010 AND A COUNCILLOR CIRCULATION PRIOR
TO MOTION FOR 180 MACLAREN DOCUMENT
3
Seventy-one responses noted objection,
with the following reasons (number of comments):
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There are enough bars and patios in this area already 5
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There is already enough late night noise 19
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Already enough noise in the summer 3
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Another outdoor patio will increase the noise 16
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There are noisy, drunk pedestrians on the street 7
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There are noisy, drunk pedestrians crossing Somerset Corkstown
Bridge 4
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Feel unsafe due to noisy and belligerent drunken patrons 2
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There will be smoking near the crosswalk and residences 1
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The area is already used as the Sens Mile 1
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Residents wish for residential quiet in the area 4
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The patio would provide no benefit to residents of the area 1
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There is already a parole office in the area 1
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Do not want commercial activity to extend into the neighbourhood 1
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Will limit space on the sidewalk 1
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Will be an eyesore 1
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There is not enough enforcement for noise and drunkenness 3
Eighteen submissions noted support,
with the following reasons:
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Fairness – the owner should be allowed the same as other in the near
vicinity 3
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City should support businesses, not restrict them 1
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Noise is a known factor in the downtown area and adjacent to bars 1
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Have never been disturbed by noise of talking or laughter from
patios 1
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Welcome people chatting and enjoying themselves and adding life and
vibrancy to the urban landscape 1
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Would add to the wonderful vibrant atmosphere on Elgin Street 5
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Patios are popular – their good use reflects the number who support them
1
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One more patio will not create additional adverse effects to those
imposed by other outdoor patios and restaurants on Elgin, including noise 2
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Residents who love the outdoors will enjoy the patio 2
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Presence will increase street safety in the evenings 1
REQUEST FOR
TEMPORARY OUTDOOR PATIO ENCROACHMENT - 180 MACLAREN STREET
demande d’empiètement temporaire pour une terrasse extérieure – 180, rue
MacLaren
ACS2010-ICS-PGM-0213 SOMERSET
(14)
Councillor Holmes
explained that this matter has been in the works for some time. There was an application years ago about 7
years ago to have this encroachment on the public right-of-way established for
this establishment and because it is within 30 m of a residential zone, the
by-law says it cannot be established.
She remarked that it is in fact within 16 m of a residential zone and
notwithstanding that it was so close, she agreed to circulate it to see whether
residents would or would not be opposed to this patio. At that time, the majority response was in
opposition to this particular patio application. Usually there is no discussion if the patio
is within 30 m of a residential zone and this one being so close to residences
and on a street of quite high density, it was clear that the people who lived
in the area were opposed to the application.
Now, the applicant has come forward to this Committee asking for a
waiver to the by-law so he can establish a patio at his business. She remarked there were 89 responses to the
City’s circulation, 71 opposed and 18 in favour. A very strong response of people living in
the area to this particular circulation.
Gérard Deschênes, resident, 150
MacLaren Street explained that he has lived at this location since 1985 and
over the last 25 years, the atmosphere in the neighbourhood has changed. More and more establishments, bars and patios
in the summer. With progress come some
inconveniences; more traffic and noise on Elgin Street, especially on the
neighbouring streets and certainly more since the creation of Senator’s
Mile. He indicated that in August 2007
he stated his opposition to the request for an encroachment for a patio at 180
MacLaren Street and his response is part of the 71 referenced in the report. He understood the applicant feels there is
other patios close by but the approval of this patio will have an impact on the
quiet life of the neighbourhood. He
believed the process has created a lack of transparency and trust in the
current process and therefore he supported the position of the ward councillor
in opposition to this waiver. He
wondered what the urgency was of approving this application now and why the
Committee would not wait until the results of the comprehensive review are
completed, as suggested by the ward councillor in the report. He suggested waiting for the results of the
study in order to set up parameters and make a decision that is fair and
equitable for this pub and others.
Councillor Holmes inquired if he
ever got a good night’s sleep and the delegation indicated that he does not
always. He added that some of the bars
on Elgin Street have karaoke and at times their windows are open and the sound
spills out. There is also a lot of noise
on the street in the late hours after the bars close. Air conditioning and ear plugs help to block
out the noise.
Councillor Legendre inquired how far
the delegation lived from the proposed patio and was informed that he lived in
an apartment building adjacent to the Business Inn at the corner of Elgin and
MacLaren. When asked about the study he
referred to being completed prior to approving this application, Mr. Deschênes
explained that it is referenced in the report.
Valerie Bietlot, Legal Counsel, confirmed that this was the direction
provided by the Committee on 1 September, to have staff come back early in 2011
following a comprehensive review of the Encroachment By-law as it relates to
patios, with recommendations on the challenges that this by-law poses and some
improvements to simply the process. John
Moser, General Manager, Planning and Growth Management confirmed he would be
reporting back the first quarter of 2011 on that review.
Having received that detail, the
councillor indicated his intention to bring forward a Motion to request that
this particular request await that report.
He was also seeking assurance that the report would address such matters
as the adequacy of the distance from the residential zone. Mr. Moser confirmed the review would include
all the elements.
Councillor Bédard commented that he
represents a ward where similar concerns are raised and he acknowledged that
there are often conflicts between the businesses and residents. He asked if the delegation was aware of any
other bar patios that are 30 m from the residential zone in the city. Mr. Deschênes indicated there were a few on
Elgin but could not recall all the names.
He noted one patio also is on the roof of the establishment and there
are residences within that building as well as adjacent to it. He offered that the Lieutenant’s Pump and
Poncho Villa, located further along Elgin Street also have outdoor patios and
residents are immediately adjacent to these establishments. The councillor Bédard recognized the same
concerns in his ward.
Councillor Holmes indicated that one
of the bars the delegation alluded to was the Fox and Feather and there are two
other bars further down the way. She
explained that those are located on private property and are not located on the
City’s road allowance. Therefore
different rules apply and they do not enter into the encroachment by-law matter
and therefore do not compare.
David Gladstone indicated
that the Centretown Citizen’s Community Association met last night and approved
a Motion opposing this proposed patio. He
expressed concern about the proximity of the patio to the existing fire hydrant
at the corner. He felt this was a safety
issue. Also, sight lines were important
and the impact on these as a result of the patio should be considered. He explained that the corner is extremely
opaque corner but is heavily used by all users and currently this City-owned
right-of-way is used to enhance community safety because it is empty and people
can see around the corner to see what is coming very easily. He felt that unless there is a qualified
professional opinion on that subject, then the Committee should not be taking a
position on this. He questioned why the
City would be approving something that will cause more noise in addition to the
already noisy conditions from existing establishments in the area. He felt those areas need to be addressed
before the City can take a position on this matter.
Matt McGrath, resident, MacLaren
Street explained that people who have moved into this area and intend to
stay there paid a lot of money for the location and yet here is a business
making an application to get free access so they can make a patio outside. The people who have moved into that area and
the people who occupy the hotel do so because it is convenient to uptown and it
is a quiet residential area. He opposed
any recommendation that would allow a business to encroach for free on City
property. The people who bought knew
what they were getting and now this person is going to upset the whole
neighbourhood. We don’t need any more
pubs there. He believed that even if
they agreed not to play music or stay open past a specific time, they would
very soon be back to the City asking to stay open longer and to play
music. He offered that there were so few
delegations speaking against this proposal because many people had to work and
so he felt he was representing a lot of residents in the area.
Responding to the delegations
concerns about an encroachment being given for free, Councillor Bédard
explained that the City would charge a fee for the encroachment permit. Mr. McGrath was aware there are fees
applicable, but explained there is no indication that these fees are even
necessary so he did not know how that fee would be established, i.e., will the
City charge $50,000 or more for the property?
He felt that fee should be set out clearly. The councillor explained that the City has a
policy on setting fees depending on the amount of square meters required and he
indicated this would apply to this particular establishment. Linda Uhryniuk, Senior By-law Administrator
(East) advised that the fee would be $1.25 per square metre per day and it
would be about 40 square meters for this location.
Councillor Holmes asked how long he
had lived in his present location and Mr. McGrath indicated that he moved to
MacLaren Street in 1944. She asked if
there was a problem with drunkenness of patrons leaving bars on Elgin Street
late at night and the delegation explained that it is a problem because many of
them make a lot of noise as they leave.
He recognized that it is a sports bar and people cheer loudly at times
when games are being televised, but this is very disturbing to residents living
nearby.
Councillor Legendre inquired if the
fee charged for encroachments is revised each budget cycle and is reflective of
property values in the area. Ms. Uhryniuk
confirmed it is affected by budget increases each year and she further
confirmed that the fee would be part of the comprehensive review staff will be
reporting back on early next year.
LiLi Weemen explained that she
lives a block away from this establishment.
Spoke to the issue of fairness and remarked that the Business Inn, which
is owned and operated by the same owner of MacLaren’s on Elgin, is one of the
biggest establishments there and they do not pay rent because they own the
building. But there are other smaller
restaurants that pay thousands of dollars a month in rent and they have to
compete.
Brian Karam, owner, MacLaren’s at
Elgin referred to the most recent circulation and the staff report, he
advised that there were 900 letters sent out to local residents but the actual
response to those 900 this time was 17 and then another 190 that he handed in
so the number of over 70 includes some earlier ones. In response to a concern raised by another
delegation, he pointed out that the hydrant is well outside the proposed patio
because the patio is set back quite a bit from the corner. He too was concerned about noise and remarked
that there has been no noise complaints from MacLaren’s over the past 15 years.
Councillor Desroches referred to
concerns raised that this patio will create noise but understood that with the
hotel there, he would also have an interest in ensuring there were no
disruptions to patrons of his inn. Mr.
Karam concurred with this, adding that he recently refunded a guest because of
the disruptive noise caused by live entertainment on Elgin Street. He confirmed the noise in the area is not
coming from his establishment. His hotel
is a popular destination for many tourists and people visiting the city.
Councillor Bédard noted that one of
the issues brought up is that there are other patios in the area that are
within 30 m of a residential zone, but that such patios are located on private
property and he asked if the delegation was aware of that fact. Mr. Karam explained that some are not wholly
on private property, including Mother Theresa’s at Somerset and O’Connor and
Bridgehead, which is immediately across the street. Where they are located wholly on private
property, the City cannot force them not to have music or to close at 11 p.m.
Councillor Legendre explained that
the intent of the Motion he was bringing forward is in regards to the
comprehensive review. Given the time of
year now and the fact it is unlikely that any patios will be used between now
and the end of March 2011, he suggested that should his Motion to await the
results of the comprehensive review carry, there would be very little impact on
the delay for your application. Mr.
Karam disagreed, noting that they have to finish their plans for the patio,
apply for a liquor license and tender for the work to be done for the patio to
be built by next spring. Therefore, he preferred
the Committee deal with this matter now.
When asked how long he had been applying for a permit, he that the first
time he dealt with a Motion to reconsider an application to consider the patio
by-law was in 1988.
Chair McRae stated that this is not
a license forever and that should the Committee grant the waiver to the
encroachment, the applicant would have to apply again? Ms. Uhryniuk explained that the location is
approved and annual permits are issued for the operation and the permits may be
revoked. Therefore, the Chair stated
that if approved today and the business owner does not comply with the rules of
the encroachment, and that was brought to the attention of the City, it is
possible that his right to use that space through the permit system could be
revoked. Staff confirmed this, with the
support of Committee and Council.
The Chair asked if there had been
any noise related complaints for music in the past five years at this
establishment and Roger Chapman, Program Manager, Enforcement (West) advised
that there were no complaints about music.
When asked if there were any noise complaints at all in that time
period, he advised that there were five complaints since 2005 for
MacLarens: three were for car alarms
going off in the parking lot and two related to a contractor who was using a
leaf blower to clean out the parking lot late at night. He confirmed that such complaints would not
be related to the operation of an outdoor patio.
Councillor Leadman recognized that
because his is a sports bar, patrons will shout and cheer and she asked if
there were any games televised on the outside of his establishment that would
elicit that kind of response and what the type of environment would be for the
patio. Mr. Karam said they do not
televise outside the bar. Their windows
do open and there have been no noise complaints. He could not see there would be any change from
the current situation and what would be happening on the patio would be much
different than inside because there would be no music and it would be closed at
11 p.m. The councillor noted there is
that kind of activity going on now when people leaving the bar and Mr. Karam
agreed there have been spontaneous responses at times when games are played and
sometimes celebrations just happen, but he felt that kind of spirit should be
encouraged.
Following on these comments, the Chair
asked if Mr. Karam was committed to having no music on the patio if approved
and he confirmed he was. He further
confirmed that the patio would be open at noon and close at 11 p.m. The Chair noted other patios are open later
and Mr. Karam stated some as late as 2 a.m.
When asked when the doors of the bar would close, he indicated that depending
on the weather, if it is hot or cold outside they are kept closed but if it is
comfortable outside that is when they would be opened. In response to one of the complaints referred
to by staff re leaf blowing, he clarified that the complaint about the company
working there late at night was actually a contractor working on the apartment
building next door to his. He allowed
them to work from the parking lot in order to reach the balconies.
Councillor Legendre noted that the
application was denied in 2006 based on the proximity of the patio to the
residential zone and he asked if anything changed in the by-law since that
occurred. Ms. Uhryniuk stated there had
been no change. When asked why staff has
changed their minds now, Nancy Schepers, Deputy City Manager explained that if
the applicant came to staff directly they would have said no because of the
requirement for a waiver. However, staff
was directed by this Committee to come back with recommendations. The councillor noted the staff reaction to
conformity to the by-law in 2006 was denied and while the Committee had asked
for a recommendation, he would have expected the answer to be the same because
it is not in conformity.
Ms. Schepers clarified that what is required is a waiver to the
by-law for this patio to be approved.
The application does not meet the by-law so staff could not facilitate
that. However, as a result of the
Committee’s direction, staff looked at the operational concerns and the noise
complaints and based on the discussion in the Minutes from 1 September 2010,
staff could not object to the granting of a waiver based on precedents in the
area and based on operational considerations. Had this come through a councillor-raised
issue, staff would have supported the waiver and is why they are supportive of
it today. She further explained that
staff have no ability to bring a waiver in front of Committee and there was
discussion at the last meeting on that.
It does not meet the by-law so staff do not have the authority to grant
a waiver because that can only occur at Committee so staff have no mechanism to
bring it here. But, with the direction
provided at the last meeting, the Committee made it clear for staff to come
back with recommendations, which is what has happened and staff looked at it
from a standpoint of whether or not they would object to the waiver and they
looked at the operational considerations and they are in a position where they
would not object and therefore the recommendation is that the Committee grant
the waiver.
Councillor Legendre remarked that in
view of the review coming forward in the spring, it would be of assistance to
staff and everyone to keep things clear and not having a recent decision going
one way and the review potentially going another. He felt it would be best to await the review
and have staff consider all the factors including distance, process, et cetera
and the come back with a good policy discussion and go forward then. Ms. Schepers advised that the facts are
going to be unchanged and she could not presume what Committee and Council may
or may not do with respect to the by-law that will be brought forward.
Councillor Legendre put forward the
following Motions:
1. That the patio at 180 MacLaren Street close
at 11 p.m. and that there be no outdoor sound amplification.
2. Whereas Transportation Committee at its
meeting of September 1, 2010, very recently requested that a comprehensive
review of the City’s Encroachment By-Law as it relates to “Outdoor Patio
Encroachment” and that this be reported to Committee and Council in the first
quarter of 2011;
Therefore
be it resolved that consideration of any further patio encroachments under the
by-law await the results of the review in the first quarter of 2011.
Councillor Leadman
inquired how close to the residential zone this patio would be. Ms. Uhryniuk explained it is
approximately 17 m from the closest residence zone and the length of the patio
as proposed is approximately 40 m. The
councillor noted the concerns raised by one of the delegations regarding
sightlines, the fire hydrant and safety issues and she asked if staff had any
concerns about these as part of the diagram provided to them for the patio
(illustrated in the report). Ms. Uhryniuk
confirmed that the proposal includes the same as that included in the staff
report and it was circulated to staff in traffic and safety and no concerns or
comments were received. The councillor
then asked if there had been other waivers to the 30 m encroachment and Ms. Uhryniuk
confirmed there are 75 or 80 patios and about 20% of those have been approved
through waiver of the 30 m separation requirement.
The Chair asked if the delegation
wished to clarify the distance, Mr. Karam offered that in terms of proximity,
he understood it is determined based on proximity to zoned residential property
and the closest zoned residential property is the parking lot immediately
adjacent to his property, which he owns so there is in fact a 100 m buffer
between his proposed patio and the building next door. In response to a question posed by Councillor
Bédard, Ms. Uhryniuk explained that the 30 m would apply to the residences
across the street as well.
Councillor Holmes inquired where the
patios were situated that staff referred to and Ms. Uhryniuk stated they
were throughout the city but mainly in the downtown core. The councillor interpreted this to mean that
staff will deny a request if it is within 30 m of a residential zone, but will
support it if it is brought forward by a councillor. The Deputy City Manager clarified that that
was not the case. She confirmed the
councillor was correct in that a request for a waiver has to come through the
Committee, but staff do look at the operational considerations and if there
were issues raised staff would not be recommending support for the waiver. The councillor noted that 70 of the 89 people
who provided a response to the circulation objected to the patio and therefore
it was a technical concern that caused staff to deny the encroachment
application initially. The Deputy City
Manager clarified that in terms of operational considerations that, would be
fairly broad considerations and given the proposed operation of the patio that
speaks to mitigation of some of the concerns that were raised by members of the
public so it is a broad based review that includes technical, operational
considerations but also other operational considerations.
When asked by the councillor for
examples of technical or operational considerations, Ms. Uhryniuk indicated
they would be sight lines, pedestrian safety, pedestrian volume, pooling on the
corner of an intersection (by pedestrians).
Staff would ensure there are no patios so close to an intersection that
would affect pedestrian movement. She
offered that other technical considerations would include the location of
utility outlets, fire hydrants, et cetera to ensure that all such operational
concerns are considered. When asked how
much weight is given to public consultation, she advised that provisions of the
by-law provide for regulation of noise and other concerns the public may bring
forward during the circulation. She
confirmed that once the patio is in they would look after the noise problems,
should they occur.
Ms. Schepers clarified that staff do
a full review all waiver requests and would not necessarily recommend granting
of a waiver in all circumstances.
Councillor Bloess noted that staff
have reviewed this request and have taken into account all the various factors
that would work against this if they were in fact an overriding concern. Ms. Uhryniuk confirmed that the location has
been reviewed. The councillor recognized
the concerns expressed by the ward councillor, but suggested there was
something wrong with the process when an applicant is denied an encroachment
for many years, but he recognized that coming through a councillor is the next
step in that process and he found it unfortunate that it has taken as long. He was not supportive of putting off this
matter until the spring.
Councillor Desroches asked whether
the Motion regarding music and closure times is standard for this type of
waiver and Ms. Uhryniuk confirmed that the applicant has consented to this request
from the Committee and these are standard conditions imposed on this type of
approval by staff. When asked by the
Chair to confirm his support for these conditions, Mr. Karam stated that he was
in agreement.
Chair McRae remarked that as was
stated at the last meeting, but for the fact the by-law compelled staff to say
no, they do support this application.
Valerie Bietlot, Legal Counsel confirmed that staff have no objection to
the application but for the waiver. They
do support the application.
Speaking to his Motion to await the
comprehensive review, Councillor Legendre felt approval of this would have
minimal impact on the applicant given that patio season is closed for 2010 and
will not reopen again until late March/early April 2011. It would also establish a level playing field
for all applicant since his Motion refers to ‘any’ applications. With regards to process, he recognized the frustration that matters of this type (and
others) have to come to Committee and Council time and again and he hoped this
could be made easier in future.
When he understood the Motion to refer to any further encroachments, Councillor
Bédard was concerned how this would affect applications that may be coming
forward in his ward and therefore could not support it. He explained there are areas in the city that
are designated entertainment areas and he felt it would be inappropriate to
negatively affect all others when the only one in question is the one before
Committee, simply because it is a long process to have a patio approved for
many of the reasons already explained by the applicant. He agreed there should be no bars (with
patios) in residential areas, but recognized that there are streets in the city
that have been recognized as major entertainment areas.
Councillor Holmes acknowledged the complexity
of the various types of patios in the city, including the requirements of those
that serve liquor vs. those that do not; the requirements for those on private
property et cetera and the various processes that each must go through before
being approved. She recognized too how
sounds carry up from patios in the downtown core because of the tall buildings
surrounding such establishments and the legitimate problems this causes neighbouring
residents. This was one of the very
reasons why so many objected to this application because they already have to
take great measures to drown out noise generated by the pubs and patios on
Elgin Street e.g., closing their windows, wearing earplugs or running their air
conditioners at all times. She remarked
that in an attempt to intensify its downtown, because so many of buildings are
adjacent to or juxtaposed to a commercial street, the City must find the right
balance of providing an enjoyable space for residents as well as for the
commercial areas. She offered that even
though the owner has indicated a responsibility to reduce noise, quite often it
is simply a matter of people talking that can cause disruptions since the sound
carries so far. She asked that the
Committee not support the staff recommendation and to allow staff the
opportunity to complete their review of the by-law.
Chair McRae agreed that the applicant should
be responsible with respect to the noise issue and therefore urged Committee
members to support the staff recommendation.
She supported the Motion to ensure closure of the patio at 11 p.m. and
that there be no outdoor sound amplification and recognized the owners’
agreement with these conditions. She
encouraged members to reject the other Motion from Councillor Legendre.
On a Point of Order, Councillor Bloess felt
the first Motion was already in the staff report and there was no reason for
the Committee to even consider it. He
urged the Chair to rule the Motion redundant.
Chair McRae felt that since the applicant was accepting of these
conditions, that it could be considered.
On a Point of Order, Councillor Bédard felt that the order in which the
Motions were being considered was incorrect because the first Motion the
Committee should consider is the one that recommends awaiting the comprehensive
review. The Chair agreed to reorder the
Motions accordingly.
Moved by J. Legendre
That
the patio at 180 MacLaren Street close at 11 p.m. and that there be no outdoor
sound amplification.
CARRIED
Moved by J. Legendre
WHEREAS
Transportation Committee at its meeting of September 1, 2010, very recently
requested that a comprehensive review of the City’s Encroachment By-Law as it
relates to “Outdoor Patio Encroachment” and that this be reported to Committee
and Council in the first quarter of 2011;
THEREFORE
BE IT RESOLVED that consideration of any further patio encroachments under the
by-law await the results of the review in the first quarter of 2011.
LOST
YEAS (1): J.
Legendre
NAYS (5) R.
Bloess, S. Desroches, G. Bédard, C. Leadman, M. McRae
That
the Transportation Committee recommend Council approve waiver of the
residential encroachment provisions of By-law-446 to allow for an outdoor patio
at 180 MacLaren Street as outlined in this report, as amended to ensure that
the patio close at 11 p.m. and that there be no outdoor sound amplification.
CARRIED, as amended, with Councillor Legendre dissenting